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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:35 am Post subject: Project "Sneaky Beast" |
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As you can guess I'm trying to build a system that without any details sounds mediocore...
But as the parts list biulds up, that's looking harder and harder to do...
so far this is what I got in mind...
Bolded parts have arrived:
Pentium M 70 dothan @2.6Ghz
Asus CT-479 socket converter
Asus P4P800 SE S478 mobo w/ AGP
GF4 MX440 [ATI X8xx series card either Pro or XT (X800 or X850) to come later]
6GB Quantum Fireball (Slowest part in the machine... 1500 in PCMark04)
Zalman CNPS9500 HSF w/ TT thunderblade 78CFM fan as rear exhaust and intake
512MB of OCZ PC3700 (other stick comes when I get 2GB kit for my A64)
NO LONGER TRUE: but the kicker is it's goin into a POS hastily customized case (total hack job for front intake, 120mm rear exhaust, and 80mm side intake... IT'S SOOOOOOO BAD)
NO LONGER TRUE EITHER: Cooler Master Centurion 5 w/ 500W PSU (28A on 12V)
NOW: Aerocool Masstige
EDIT: UPDATED PARTS LIST (Again...Twice) _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop
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fackamato Proofreader

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Posts: 852 Location: Ireland / Sweden
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:31 am Post subject: Re: Project "Sneaky Beast" |
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| magicman wrote: | As you can guess I'm trying to build a system that without any details sounds mediocore...
But as the parts list biulds up, that's looking harder and harder to do...
so far this is what I got in mind...
Pentium M dothan 1.8Ghz
Asus CT-479 socket converter
Asus S478 mobo w/ PCIe (model depends on prices and availability)
ATI X8xx series card either Pro or XT (X800 or X850)
40GB Maxtor Ultra ATA 133 8MB cache 7200RPM IDE drive
Zalman CNPS9500 HSF w/ TT thunderblade 78CFM fan as rear exhaust
1GB of OCZ PC3700,4000 or 4200
but the kicker is it's goin into a POS hastily customized case (total hack job for front intake, 120mm rear exhaust, and 80mm side intake... IT'S SOOOOOOO BAD) |
What's a POS case? Barebone? It's gonna be a nice gaming rig for sure , which I guess is the case. Might want a little more storage though! Be sure to take pictures  _________________ Open Source > * |
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Delph1 Master of Science

Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 4750 Location: Pennybridge, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: |
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Just make sure to check if the CT-479 has support for the mainboard you want, but I don't think there is socket 478-boards with PCIe ?
//Andeas _________________ "I'm sort of a postmodern vegetarian, I eat meat ironically"
"You are our Swedish superhero "
Forget everything, knowledge is your enemy, it's only going to make you second-guess yourself." |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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the case is a Piece Of Shit... one of those $30 cases that come with a 350W psu... Total Crap, hidious.
My buddy may be lettin me have his softmodded X800 XT (formerly a Pro) but it's AGP, so it may be a P4P800 SE.
If not I'm gonna try and get my hands on a Asus P4GD1 mobo...
Socket 478, DDR1, PCIe, 915 chipset, supported by CT-479 _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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you guys know of anyone who's gotten 3ghz out of the dothans? _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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Steel Moderator
Joined: 09 Feb 2004 Posts: 337 Location: Skurup, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:12 am Post subject: |
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I belive both ASUS and Gigabyte have atleast one MB each that is Socket 478 and have PCI-E. _________________ [Play:ASUS P4S800-MX SE||P4 2.4GHz@2.6GHz||2048MB PC3200||Radeon X1600Pro 256MB||500GB HD][Server:ASUS CUSL2-C||Celeron 800Mhz||384MB PC133||ATI 3D Rage 128bit||540GB HD] |
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Delph1 Master of Science

Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 4750 Location: Pennybridge, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| magicman wrote: | | you guys know of anyone who's gotten 3ghz out of the dothans? |
I know of 1.5GHz Celeron Ms going past 3GHz, but with Dothans I'm not sure
//Andreas _________________ "I'm sort of a postmodern vegetarian, I eat meat ironically"
"You are our Swedish superhero "
Forget everything, knowledge is your enemy, it's only going to make you second-guess yourself." |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:08 am Post subject: |
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So I just won the bidding on a Pentium M 1.8GHz dothan...
just need board, ram, vid... then I'll be set... _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Chip is in, I should be getting the board in a couple days... And it may find itself in a friends old Centurion 5 Case now... _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: |
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The chip is installed but let me tell you it was no picnic. I had to modify both the power cable and plug on the CT-479. And the braces are installed upside down with one side of the bracket jammed under a brace and the other screwed in.
The HSF is sitting twisted on the chip, but that's okay. And it's about 1% off level... but it's working. And that's what counts. _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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Delph1 Master of Science

Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 4750 Location: Pennybridge, Sweden
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Yikes, doesn't sound all that fun
Hope overclocks as expected still.
//Andreas _________________ "I'm sort of a postmodern vegetarian, I eat meat ironically"
"You are our Swedish superhero "
Forget everything, knowledge is your enemy, it's only going to make you second-guess yourself." |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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after I got Asus probe installed, it read the chip as running at 57C. So I restarted the system and went into the bios. The bios read it as 86C so I turned it off.
I'm assuming that since the chip is not built for that board and the socket converter is there that it may not be accurate. However, in case it is, I'm gonna try to reseat the heatsink this afternoon. _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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So I got it all set up, and it seemed to max out at 2400
So that's all well and good, not what I was hoping for... So I'm selling it, at a profit, and pickin up a 740 533FSB chip that should do a little better... Probably take about 1.5 Weeks to get here... _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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Delph1 Master of Science

Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 4750 Location: Pennybridge, Sweden
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I'm guessing if you wanna reach those really high scores you probably need a native Pentium M-board, but those cost quite a bit.
//Andreas _________________ "I'm sort of a postmodern vegetarian, I eat meat ironically"
"You are our Swedish superhero "
Forget everything, knowledge is your enemy, it's only going to make you second-guess yourself." |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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from what I read the Asus boards actually seem to be better... especially when cost is considered...
The native boards don't seem to be engineered with OC'ing in mind at all... Well maybe the DFI... cause DFI rules... but for a mATX board, I'm not spending that much cash...
Plus the Asus board are all mod friendly  _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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Delph1 Master of Science

Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 4750 Location: Pennybridge, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| magicman wrote: | from what I read the Asus boards actually seem to be better... especially when cost is considered...
The native boards don't seem to be engineered with OC'ing in mind at all... Well maybe the DFI... cause DFI rules... but for a mATX board, I'm not spending that much cash...
Plus the Asus board are all mod friendly  |
True
//Andreas _________________ "I'm sort of a postmodern vegetarian, I eat meat ironically"
"You are our Swedish superhero "
Forget everything, knowledge is your enemy, it's only going to make you second-guess yourself." |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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so the 750 is in the mail  _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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So after selling the Centurion 5 Case on Saturday, I now need a new case... But I want something different...
Want: 120mm fan(s), window, no door (or door with vents), not ugly!
so far my best find has been the Aerocool masstige.
If that case had a larger window instead of the 3X80mm fans it would be even better... But I love the Reverse ATX.
but I'd still like to find one in aluminum _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Chip and Case Both Arrived TODAY  _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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Mean Machine Hardwareaholic

Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 1749 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| magicman wrote: | Chip and Case Both Arrived TODAY  |
Woah, the case was really nice. Or at least for the 3-sec glance I had, but it reminded of the CM Stacker a bit.
Give us pictures of the stuff you've got.  _________________ Man, or woman, or both?
Grandis spiritus, sanctus diavolos |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:27 am Post subject: |
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So I accidentally crushed the core on the 750
So I have a 740 now... and it's got the Zalman 9500 installed on it...
VERY IMPORTANT!!! USE SHIMS ON CPU TO PROTECT THE DIE!!!
Idles aroun 27C w/ 22C mobo temp. 41C load. So far my best Superpi is 31 Sec, but that was with single channel memory... the other stick should really help it out... _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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Delph1 Master of Science

Joined: 11 Dec 2003 Posts: 4750 Location: Pennybridge, Sweden
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Ouch, talk about bad luck
Aye, memory bandwidth is very important in SuperPi.
//Andreas _________________ "I'm sort of a postmodern vegetarian, I eat meat ironically"
"You are our Swedish superhero "
Forget everything, knowledge is your enemy, it's only going to make you second-guess yourself." |
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magicman Lord of the Peltier

Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1000 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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so it's running at 2640 and seems superpi(32M), prime stable (18.5 hours),PCMark04, and 3Dmark01 (looping for 5+ hours).
I can't wait for my new ram... _________________ E6600 @ 3800Mhz | EVGA 680i | 2GB DDR2 PC8500 @ 550Mhz | 7800GT |Silverstone Zeus 750W| DD TDX 120mm waterloop |
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