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magicman
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:35 am    Post subject: Project "Sneaky Beast" Reply with quote

As you can guess I'm trying to build a system that without any details sounds mediocore...

But as the parts list biulds up, that's looking harder and harder to do...

so far this is what I got in mind...

Bolded parts have arrived:

Pentium M 70 dothan @2.6Ghz
Asus CT-479 socket converter
Asus P4P800 SE S478 mobo w/ AGP
GF4 MX440 [ATI X8xx series card either Pro or XT (X800 or X850) to come later]
6GB Quantum Fireball (Slowest part in the machine... 1500 in PCMark04)
Zalman CNPS9500 HSF w/ TT thunderblade 78CFM fan as rear exhaust and intake
512MB of OCZ PC3700 (other stick comes when I get 2GB kit for my A64)

NO LONGER TRUE: but the kicker is it's goin into a POS hastily customized case (total hack job for front intake, 120mm rear exhaust, and 80mm side intake... IT'S SOOOOOOO BAD)

NO LONGER TRUE EITHER: Cooler Master Centurion 5 w/ 500W PSU (28A on 12V)

NOW: Aerocool Masstige

EDIT: UPDATED PARTS LIST (Again...Twice)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: Project "Sneaky Beast" Reply with quote

magicman wrote:
As you can guess I'm trying to build a system that without any details sounds mediocore...

But as the parts list biulds up, that's looking harder and harder to do...

so far this is what I got in mind...

Pentium M dothan 1.8Ghz
Asus CT-479 socket converter
Asus S478 mobo w/ PCIe (model depends on prices and availability)
ATI X8xx series card either Pro or XT (X800 or X850)
40GB Maxtor Ultra ATA 133 8MB cache 7200RPM IDE drive
Zalman CNPS9500 HSF w/ TT thunderblade 78CFM fan as rear exhaust
1GB of OCZ PC3700,4000 or 4200

but the kicker is it's goin into a POS hastily customized case (total hack job for front intake, 120mm rear exhaust, and 80mm side intake... IT'S SOOOOOOO BAD)


What's a POS case? Barebone? Smile It's gonna be a nice gaming rig for sure Smile, which I guess is the case. Might want a little more storage though! Smile Be sure to take pictures Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just make sure to check if the CT-479 has support for the mainboard you want, but I don't think there is socket 478-boards with PCIe ?

//Andeas
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the case is a Piece Of Shit... one of those $30 cases that come with a 350W psu... Total Crap, hidious.

My buddy may be lettin me have his softmodded X800 XT (formerly a Pro) but it's AGP, so it may be a P4P800 SE.
If not I'm gonna try and get my hands on a Asus P4GD1 mobo...

Socket 478, DDR1, PCIe, 915 chipset, supported by CT-479
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys know of anyone who's gotten 3ghz out of the dothans?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I belive both ASUS and Gigabyte have atleast one MB each that is Socket 478 and have PCI-E.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

magicman wrote:
you guys know of anyone who's gotten 3ghz out of the dothans?


I know of 1.5GHz Celeron Ms going past 3GHz, but with Dothans I'm not sure Smile

//Andreas
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magicman
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I just won the bidding on a Pentium M 1.8GHz dothan...

just need board, ram, vid... then I'll be set...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chip is in, I should be getting the board in a couple days... And it may find itself in a friends old Centurion 5 Case now...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chip is installed but let me tell you it was no picnic. I had to modify both the power cable and plug on the CT-479. And the braces are installed upside down with one side of the bracket jammed under a brace and the other screwed in.

The HSF is sitting twisted on the chip, but that's okay. And it's about 1% off level... but it's working. And that's what counts.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yikes, doesn't sound all that fun Confused

Hope overclocks as expected still.
//Andreas
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

after I got Asus probe installed, it read the chip as running at 57C. So I restarted the system and went into the bios. The bios read it as 86C so I turned it off.

I'm assuming that since the chip is not built for that board and the socket converter is there that it may not be accurate. However, in case it is, I'm gonna try to reseat the heatsink this afternoon.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I got it all set up, and it seemed to max out at 2400

So that's all well and good, not what I was hoping for... So I'm selling it, at a profit, and pickin up a 740 533FSB chip that should do a little better... Probably take about 1.5 Weeks to get here...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'm guessing if you wanna reach those really high scores you probably need a native Pentium M-board, but those cost quite a bit.

//Andreas
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what I read the Asus boards actually seem to be better... especially when cost is considered...

The native boards don't seem to be engineered with OC'ing in mind at all... Well maybe the DFI... cause DFI rules... but for a mATX board, I'm not spending that much cash...

Plus the Asus board are all mod friendly Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magicman wrote:
from what I read the Asus boards actually seem to be better... especially when cost is considered...

The native boards don't seem to be engineered with OC'ing in mind at all... Well maybe the DFI... cause DFI rules... but for a mATX board, I'm not spending that much cash...

Plus the Asus board are all mod friendly Very Happy


True Wink

//Andreas
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so the 750 is in the mail Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So after selling the Centurion 5 Case on Saturday, I now need a new case... But I want something different...

Want: 120mm fan(s), window, no door (or door with vents), not ugly!

so far my best find has been the Aerocool masstige.

If that case had a larger window instead of the 3X80mm fans it would be even better... But I love the Reverse ATX.

but I'd still like to find one in aluminum
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chip and Case Both Arrived TODAY Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Twisted Evil Razz Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magicman wrote:
Chip and Case Both Arrived TODAY Razz Razz Razz Razz Razz Twisted Evil Razz Razz Razz

Woah, the case was really nice. Or at least for the 3-sec glance I had, but it reminded of the CM Stacker a bit. Smile
Give us pictures of the stuff you've got. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I accidentally crushed the core on the 750 Hammer Crying or Very sad

So I have a 740 now... and it's got the Zalman 9500 installed on it...

VERY IMPORTANT!!! USE SHIMS ON CPU TO PROTECT THE DIE!!!

Idles aroun 27C w/ 22C mobo temp. 41C load. So far my best Superpi is 31 Sec, but that was with single channel memory... the other stick should really help it out...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch, talk about bad luck Sad

Aye, memory bandwidth is very important in SuperPi.

//Andreas
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it's running at 2640 and seems superpi(32M), prime stable (18.5 hours),PCMark04, and 3Dmark01 (looping for 5+ hours).

I can't wait for my new ram...
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