Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: Kinc and Shamino breaks 27,000 with Mushkin and ASUS HD 2900
After a not so fortunate start of the Games Convention, Kinc and Shamino have returned to their everyday life and started benching again with Mushkin at the Games Convention. Unfortunately Kinc lost his precious Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850, but luckily Shamino had another which worked "quite well" too. Sham's QX6850 reached 5119MHz (3DMark stable) on an ASUS Blitz Extreme. The memories used were Mushkin's new DDR3-1333 memories (we have some more information about these later).
The processor was cooled by Shamino's Dragonpot, which in other terms mean liquid nitrogen. The pair of ASUS Radeon HD 2900 XT, which Kinc and Shamino overclocked to 1175/950MHz, was also cryo-cooled, but with a pair of Mousepot rev4.
This brings Kinc, and Shamino of course, back to the top of the 3DMark 06 Hall of Fame, along with the Radeon HD 2900 XT. The new GPU-pots (rev4) with a thicker base really does wonders for the Radeon HD 2900 XT, and there might even be more coming. The new world record is 27,039 points and it might even get a tweak or two before the Games Convention is over.
I saw the extrem overclockers at the ASUS-stand at work on Friday, it was impressive. I saw how they managed to reach more than 256000 Points in "AquaMark3"... I'm not sure, but I think, that they had shown a screenshoot with more than 265000 Points... Oh, I found the Score: http://www.awardfabrik.de/images/review_pics/no_name/gc2007messerekord/03.JPG ...
Last edited by quicksilver on Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:39 pm; edited 1 time in total
I stopped by because I heard that Kinc and Shamino retracted the results as buggy (false) because of what others stated.
I just want to add a few things:
When you venture ahead into a field which is not fully explored, no single person, not even processor architects are experts Gods at, as pioneers, anything can happen. To use broken logic is to state "its not happened before so it can never". We have science that makes all this come true and all of everything they do has never happened before. Look at the LHC being built by CERN. My homeland is a little too full of quack bigots who called Tesla a delusional quack in their ignorant pride never admitting to how he was better than them - he did and understood what they never at the time.
How do you know any other score submitted wasn't buggy this way, just because it never showed a higher GT1 than GT2? You got the validation so I don't understand...
Did you see my Duron? Has that happened before so that means it can't happen? It certainly did.
I can show you processor anomalies with even my Celeron on how it reaches steady performance increase for 100-300MHz and then suddenly drops to that level of 400MHz below, until you add another 600MHz - altogether 1GHz, just to level performance that you had before. Narrow minds or uneducated people will say that can't happen either. By uneducated, I mean weak minds, rather than reading books.
I wasn't happy that you guys chose to retract the results before Hipro and his next week benching, and someone not recreating the clock speeds and motherboard conditions.
If I was number benching, I'd help you out to replicate the results for sure. But I stopped doing it since around 2 years now with too much else my mind and time belongs to, and won't go near it again till at least another 2 years. I can't say it didn't motivate me at first though, since I have cash spare from holiday, sold a phone, some wheels, and recently bought 2x Nokia 8800 Sciroccos, 1x Nokia N95 new which'll fetch me 1x £400 and 2x £450 each if I needed, which is roughly $2800 when I take it back States - plenty to buy the platform and nitrogen and helium are available through the lab technician my Uni friends practice Pharmacy and Biochemistry at. But time is a massive issue which won't let me move ahead and the platform will be useless to me in the end, even if it were a 8 core Penryn for £200. I simply have too much on my plate for a while.
I think you guys are of the most genuine in the overclocking community and I don't see anyone else "up there" who would've retracted the results had it been them. Hope you get some records and benching in soon, we all know that you guys can do it just aswell as anyone else. Takes a far bigger heart. Congratz. Complexity in a task is a factor of effort + time + motivation + concentration, nothing else. Good luck and hope the guys who lost the equipment get it or something better back.
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject:
The reason of the retraction was not so much because whether it was buggy or not, but because it could be a bug and no one wants a record that people doesn't trust. It's a matter of respect from the community as a whole. Protecting once reputation so to speak. It doesn't matter if we're right if we can't convince the majority we are. Sadly, that's the truth.
//Andreas _________________ "I'm sort of a postmodern vegetarian, I eat meat ironically" "You are our Swedish superhero "
Forget everything, knowledge is your enemy, it's only going to make you second-guess yourself."
I did some benching a few years ago with dual Opteron 285 and an ATI-card. For two-three days in a row I improved the single card WR for that card in 3D06. My CPU-score was on the HallOfFame page (not many people had that kind of CPU-power at that time). Everything seemed just fine.
However, C2D arraived but I still had a top5 result. If I looked at every other result with every other GFX, the WRs was improved real fast.
Even if my result seemed 'good' it was not worth much for me anymore. I removed the result because of a feeling in my stomage. I do think it is/was about the same for Marcus.
I really hope Marcus will pass 27k again real soon. Go for it Marcus!
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